The Faith No More Listening Thread

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by ChristopherTeuma, Sep 9, 2019.

  1. Daniel Plainview

    Daniel Plainview God's Lonely Man

    We Care A Lot - I love this song and I love this album. It's #3.... sometimes #2... in my Faith No More hierarchy. A great record.
     
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  3. ChristopherTeuma

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    This two-chord motif seems to be something they'd been playing with from the beginning.
    Here's what it sounded like as the opener to their first demo.

     
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  4. ChristopherTeuma

    ChristopherTeuma Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Anyone more learned than me wanna take stab at what genre 'The Jungle' is?
     
  5. Daniel Plainview

    Daniel Plainview God's Lonely Man

    "Phantom-Zone Funk-Metal".
     
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  7. ChristopherTeuma

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    There's elements of Epic already flourishing and alive here, the driven guitar chords ringing out as they later would on King for A Day, Pristina, and all over Sol Invictus. The held in-the-box-string-orchestra-and-horns keys, playing straight-forward non-Western harmonic minor chord progressions. Even got a little precursor to the rap in Zombie Eaters.

    The demo, distributed on the 'Roddy' tape, shows the song, and the Faith No More concepts, to be oven ready


    That snare on the third beat, though...

    While doing this I'm attempting to suss out some armchair philosophy about Faith No More's "Boop Boop". Kinda like it's George Clinton's James Brown's "The One" plus the backbeat.
    1-&-2-&-3-&-4-BOOP,BOOP-&-2-&-3-&-4-&...

    But back to Mark Bowen... a snare on the the third beat is a Reggae thing to do. This is not Reggae.
    It's a head swinging pulse around the 1 and 3. It isn't metal. I wanna say "Tribal" but I'm likely referring to what Hollywood has told me that means. Primal?
    I wanna call early Faith No More.. Heady Tribal Metal...?
    Were Sepultura influenced by Mike Bordin?

    I'll espouse more of my silly ideas later..

    This sounds good loud.
    Kudos again to Mr. Wallace.
     
  8. Luisboa

    Luisboa Forum Resident

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    Coimbra, Portugal
    Love We Care a Lot (album) a lot. :cool:
    I know Mike Patton is Mike Patton, but the raw energy of Chuck Mosley give to this album and Introduce Yourself a real dark tone that I love. Im a sucker for the fisrt 2 FnM albuns, and only Angel Dust goes higher on my list, no matter how much irracional that could be.

    We care a lot. A FnM classic all the way. 5/5
    The Jungle. One of my favourite FnM songs, real dark and terrifying. 5/5
    Mark Bowen. Cool song. 4/5
     
  9. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley 5.1 should be mandatory for my favourite albums

    A bit of a classic really. I must have heard this around the place prior to knowing that this was FNM, because when I first saw them in concert they played this (with Patton) and I thought they were doing a cover of something vaguely familiar.
    That made me hunt down the first album, which I like, but don't love.
     
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  10. Daniel Plainview

    Daniel Plainview God's Lonely Man

    I love the first album. Love it. Played it last night twice in a row.

    Mark Bowen - Chuck mutterings at the beginning give way to an... "epic"... vocal performance, really adding drama and emotion to the track.
     
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  11. ChristopherTeuma

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    Glad to hear about it!

    And it is dang epic, like I said - play it loud!
    The 2016 remastered 24/44 files were/are worth the re-purchase.
     
  12. juss100

    juss100 Forum Resident

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    I've avoided commenting so far as I'm not sure what to make of them and I keep thinking to myself "Ok, I'll give them another listen later on" So I'll probably do that. I like it but I'm not sure how much at this point - We Care a Lot is a classic, for sure, but I do feel it could use a bit more polish. The sensibilities of the other two tracks are just a little two punk-ish for me and Mosley's vocals aren't honestly my favourite thing, they're not that exciting or unpredictable, just a bit boorish. It's sortof like the difference between Di'anno Iron Maiden and Dickinson ... I do like early Maiden, but then you get the later stuff and boom, you realise that the early albums are just a bit too indebted to punk delivery.
     
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  13. ChristopherTeuma

    ChristopherTeuma Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Well hey, the threads going, tune in and out as you wish!

    In the meantime...
     
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  15. Luisboa

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    Jim.

    This song has little to do with the rest of the album, but when the first sound of the next song "Why do you bother" steps in the fact that this bucolic guitar was placed before turns it even more dark and dangerous.

    alone is a cool guitar theme, still not sure if it belongs to this album.

    3/5
     
  16. Daniel Plainview

    Daniel Plainview God's Lonely Man

    Very nice piece from Jim. Showing off his skill. Kinda like "Dee" by Randy Rhodes. These guys could do more than just shred.
     
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  17. ChristopherTeuma

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    The world around us blurs as gravity increases, Mr Gould's rumbling hammer-ons and another two-chord motif invite us into an unknown void - why hold on?

    Why Do You Bother

    We Care A Lot 1985



    Faith No More - Why Do You Bother
    Why Do You Bother
    ‎Why Do You Bother by Faith No More
    Faith No More - Why Do You Bother - Listen on Deezer

    Chuck's double-tracked shouts evoke a young man walking in an empty city, stuck in his mind about the values of his society.

    If you're in a position to scream along -

    "Why hold on?
    Your hands are getting sore
    You must be scared of something
    From the time before, well...
    We're here again
    How long, who knows?
    It's not your right to tell me
    Where this trip will go
    Pull away
    You're dying today
    You could enjoy it
    If you could take your feelings with you
    But put your mind on me
    And suck my energy
    And then the speed gets higher
    I see you hold on tighter....

    But just fatigue
    Is all your face will show
    It's weary from the stress
    Getting delirious
    "I didn't want this race
    We can't keep up this pace"
    We don't want to get well
    We want to go to hell
    We want an urban dream
    The ****ing urban scream
    "This time was mine to borrow
    I'll pay for it tomorrow"
    You'll pay for it today
    And as we drive away
    I'll make my pleasure greater
    Push the accelerator

    (and down we go)
    "

    Down we go indeed, into that ground melting ominous bending ending. Matt Wallace in the guts getting the band's big ideas to function.

    The whole song being in C minor but for the plateau would-be-chorus of a superimposed C Major continues to be a signature for the band.

    This is a powerful recording. "Existential angst" is a played out concept, but I really feel it here.

    If I remember, when we get to 'Mouth to Mouth', I'm gonna commend Patton on retaining the lyrical meter from this song...
     
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  18. ChristopherTeuma

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    The fully formed pre-Chuck pre-Jim demo


    The bends are all in there, but boy did they go for it on that big "bend-the-whole-band" tape slowdown on the studio recording.
    Since it's instrumental, and I posted the lyrics up there - I recommend bothering the neighbors in the name of Chuck.
     
  19. Luisboa

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    Why do you bother?

    Another big moment of We Care A Lot. What a descent trip to terrifying places, and Chuck really brings all out with all the painfull screaming and raw emotions. Once again I say Mike Patton is a genious and one of the best vocalists ever, but Chuck makes the 2 first albuns really powerful. The syncopated rythm section is great and drives the song as usual and the keyboards are hipnotic. Only Jim is a little absence from this song, but sometimes is better to move away and let the others move foward and do their thing; even so if we hear carefully Jim is there with some nice riffs.

    5/5
     
  20. mestreech

    mestreech Forum Resident

    What a great read and listen!!! Thanks for this thread as I very much enjoy it. Keep on putting up those great songs.
     
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  21. Daniel Plainview

    Daniel Plainview God's Lonely Man

    Why Do You Bother - another album highlight. Should be on every hits package. Awesome track.
     
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  22. ChristopherTeuma

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    Over the hills they came from the valley
    Making innuendoes 'bout my lack of talent

    oh well...

    Greed
    We Care A Lot 1985



    They say that when I'm supposed to be singing
    All I 'm really doing is yelling
    To you I say ...

    oh well...


    Is it the A&R guys' greed? The audience's greed?
    Seems to be Chuck's. Or Chuck feeling like he shouldn't want what he wants.
    Of course, the song title pre-dates Chuck (but not his feelings!).

    Then they say that I can't sing
    That I don't say a thing
    That I make everything up... oh well


    Break out
    or Get out

    The lyric is almost Chuck saying "I get it what you're saying about me, but do you get what I'm saying?"

    Get out of your mind
    Cause it's much too small
    And there's so much going on

    One of those many things being Billy's slightly late bass for the first half of the song. He sorts it out by the second chorus.

    Faith No More - Greed
    ‎Greed by Faith No More
    Greed
    Faith No More - Greed - Listen on Deezer






     
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  23. ChristopherTeuma

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    Much earlier...

    Greed
    "Roddy" demo



    Most of the songs power already ploughing on this demo.
    I personally prefer it to the album because of that snare in that room and the guy hitting it like that.
     
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  24. ChristopherTeuma

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    Greed
    demo
     
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  25. Daniel Plainview

    Daniel Plainview God's Lonely Man

    Greed - Chuck's intro always makes me smile. Not the greatest song on the record but I still like it.
     
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