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[Poll] Best $1000–Class Turntable(s)? (pick up to three)

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by Cyclone Ranger, Jan 15, 2019.

  1. Subagent

    Subagent All I know is What I Read in the Liner Notes

    Location:
    Arlington, VA
    Both paragons of their respective design philosophies at that price point, it would seem. I probably can't argue too much with that.
     
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  2. slovell

    slovell Retired Mudshark

    Location:
    Chesnee, SC, USA
    Used VPI Scout.
     
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  3. Bananas&blow

    Bananas&blow Pretentious Member

    Location:
    Pacific Beach, CA
    This may be a stupid question. But do any of these tables have auto-return? I ask because the table I want to get I listen to as I go to sleep most nights. And very often I don't finish a side and certainly don't want to get up every time I am asleep :).
     
  4. Cyclone Ranger

    Cyclone Ranger New old stock Thread Starter

    Location:
    Best Coast USA
    Hmm, this is sort of a 'blind spot' for me, as auto-return or auto-lift is a feature I personally don't much need or care about.

    That said, I think the vast majority of 'serious' TTs don't have it. Though Technics did just announce the SL-1500C (for $1399) which will have auto-lift (and probably similar sound quality to a SL1200Mk7. Also comes with a phono preamp and an Ortofon 2M Red).

    There are also aftermarket auto-lift doohickeys like the ones shown below. You'd have to do your own research as to which ones work well or don't. There are probably threads here on this forum about them. HTH. :thumbsup:

    The Q UP

    http://www.expressimoaudio.com/Chuck.m4v

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  5. patient_ot

    patient_ot Forum Resident

    Location:
    USA
    Auto lift and auto-return are far more prevalent on vintage tables.

    Besides the upcoming 1500C, there are the Denon tables like the 300F which are a bit cheaper than those listed in the poll.

    Can't think of any others off the top of my head. An aftermarket device like @Cyclone Ranger might be the way to go if those don't suit your needs or you don't want to go vintage.
     
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  6. Davey

    Davey like smoke from a lithium dream

    Location:
    SF Bay Area, USA
    There are other models from Lenco and Teac and Dual ...

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  7. Big Blue

    Big Blue Forum Resident

    Location:
    Wisconsin
    I appreciate this price range definition. It's been funny to me seeing every piece of gear I have been able to entertain described as "entry-level" seemingly regardless of price. How much does one need to spend to get out of "entry-level" for this stuff?

    I also appreciate the confirmation that I am right in thinking that upgrading from my $200 Fluance is probably only worthwhile if I jump over that "dangerous and sad no-man's land" range you describe. I think the range represented in this poll is likely my next step (unless I really treat myself and go even further, at which point I probably start to panic every time the dog walks past it).
     
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  8. Big Blue

    Big Blue Forum Resident

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    Wisconsin
    ...if the damn thing ever sees the market. How long have they been teasing this? I appreciate the time that has evidently gone into development, but why show anything before being closer to having it ready?
     
  9. Cyclone Ranger

    Cyclone Ranger New old stock Thread Starter

    Location:
    Best Coast USA
    To build buzz and hype prior to release? My guess, anyway.

    Last I heard, they're talking about releasing the Sol in April... if anyone has newer information on this, pls post.
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  10. Big Blue

    Big Blue Forum Resident

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    Wisconsin
    Maybe, and that strategy may work out. I am just at this point assuming it's possible the whole thing has been a joke all along and not a real product. I did vote for it in the poll, because it's an intriguing design with some nice features, so if it actually is released in April, it will probably get a good look from me.
     
  11. Davey

    Davey like smoke from a lithium dream

    Location:
    SF Bay Area, USA
    Maybe be released on April 1, that's the Schitt way :)

    It does seem kind of like an unfinished product in the pictures. Customer support required would probably be a nightmare for a low overhead business.
     
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  12. Cyclone Ranger

    Cyclone Ranger New old stock Thread Starter

    Location:
    Best Coast USA
    One thing I really like about the Sol: adjustable on-the-fly VTA. :agree:

    Quite rare for 'tables in this price class. In fact, can anyone think of some other TTs in the class that have it? I can't seem to remember any. :oops:
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  13. Big Blue

    Big Blue Forum Resident

    Location:
    Wisconsin
    No. Also nice are the swapable arm tubes for easy switching of carts. In theory, this should be preferable sonically to removable headshells but almost as convenient. I have not seen this on anything in a sub-VPI price range, and I assume VPI charges way more for the arm tubes than the "couple hundred bucks" I heard Schiit talk about.

    I don't think I am wild about the physical configuration from a practical perspective (mainly dust cover concerns...), but these high-end tonearm features are a big part of what would make me consider working through that.
     
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  14. fjn04

    fjn04 Forum Resident

    Location:
    clifton Park, NY
    WELL TEMPERED SIMPLEX
     
  15. Cyclone Ranger

    Cyclone Ranger New old stock Thread Starter

    Location:
    Best Coast USA
    $2000 'table last I checked, i.e. too expensive for the poll. :oops:
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  16. fjn04

    fjn04 Forum Resident

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    clifton Park, NY
    Hmmm, last year I bought a dealer demo Amadeus for $1,500. Just figured with a bit of luck, the entry level Simplex could be had for
    less. Not the latest (mk 2) version brand new, but perhaps the original (full golf ball) mk 1. Cheers -Don
     
  17. Cyclone Ranger

    Cyclone Ranger New old stock Thread Starter

    Location:
    Best Coast USA
    Yah, with luck, but re-read post #1.

    Prices have to be MSRP, otherwise a poll for $1000 TTs becomes about closeout/demo/open-box/on-sale $1500-$2000 TTs instead. o_O
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  18. Cyclone Ranger

    Cyclone Ranger New old stock Thread Starter

    Location:
    Best Coast USA
    Fortunately, there's a widely-available and good-sounding loophole to the 'Dangerous and Sad No-Man's Land' price-class TTs... used Technics SL1200Mk2/3/5s, for around $500 or so.

    You do have to inspect them in-person to verify they're in good shape, but there's so many of them out there, and they're built like tanks.
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  19. Cyclone Ranger

    Cyclone Ranger New old stock Thread Starter

    Location:
    Best Coast USA
    Looks like the Planar 3's gonna hit 100 votes.

    Nice job, Rega. :thumbsup:
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  20. Cyclone Ranger

    Cyclone Ranger New old stock Thread Starter

    Location:
    Best Coast USA
    Last edited: Jan 29, 2019
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  21. Cyclone Ranger

    Cyclone Ranger New old stock Thread Starter

    Location:
    Best Coast USA
    The Schiit guys at an October trade show talkin' 'bout the Sol TT... aka the alleged 'Rega Planar 3 killer', to hear some early reviews.

    Some details dropped: they're aiming for a $700-ish price tag, and hope to get it out in Q1 (which to me means 'March 31' :p).

    Sol-talk is from 1:40 to 15:15 on the vid. Is occasionally NSFW, i.e. they swear sometimes, and beer may be involved :laugh: .



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  22. McLover

    McLover Forum Resident

    Location:
    East TN
    Costs almost as much as a new Technics SL-1500C. Not worth that price. The Lenco's not very good, nor is the Teac.
     
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  23. Davey

    Davey like smoke from a lithium dream

    Location:
    SF Bay Area, USA
    I think the Dual is about the same price as the 1200 Mk7 at just under $1000 euro, apparently made in Germany and does have some nice features. Don't necessarily disagree with your assessment, but I only posted in response to a question about whether there were any other auto return/lift/shutoff decks available. I haven't used any of the ones I mentioned, or even any listed in the poll, to be honest.
     
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  24. McLover

    McLover Forum Resident

    Location:
    East TN
    That Dual is pricey for the actual quality of turntable you get. If this was $500, I'd be OK with it. The Technics is that much better for the price. If you want that Dual, get a used one (same basic design's been around since the middle 1980's. and available in nice shape for fair prices).
     
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  25. Cyclone Ranger

    Cyclone Ranger New old stock Thread Starter

    Location:
    Best Coast USA
    strategical bump
     

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