Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by bluemooze, Feb 22, 2017.
His (Solti) Second with the CSO is one of my favorites.
Spinning this early SACD-
Agreed. Some even seem to have used better tapes.
The Telarc CD ... is that the album that also includes Grofé’s Grand Canyon Suite — but with actual thunder for Cloudburst?
Not only the existing speakers will have to be replaced, I suspect the surround processor has to be redesigned as well to allow signal exchanges to happen between the processor and the "active" speakers ...
Mine is an all Tchai. affair.
The problem with Telarc had always been a dearth of big-name ensembles and soloists. I bought just about all the recordings made by Mackerras and Previn with some Maazel and Dohnanyi and they added up to less than 2 dozens out of some 8,000 CD's (no Telarc LP's) in my collection. Why would I bother with Martin Pearlman and the Boston Baroque when I have AAM/Hogwood, English Concert/Pinnock, ASMIF/Marriner, Amsterdam Baroque/Koopman, Concentus Musicus/harnoncourt, etc. to choose from? SQ alone will not sell when the performance is not first-rate ...
J.A.W., the DM70's were/are absolutely superb. I was so so so close to buying a 2nd hand pair about 20 years ago. A friend's dad was selling a 'straight' pair because he was considering buying a curved pair - which he claimed sounded better ! The combination of electrostatic tweeter and standard woofer worked well to my ears. It didn't happen and I wonder now if I made a mistake in not grabbing them !!
Were yours flat or straight ??
I had the ones below (wood finish). I wasn't so happy with the performance. The electrostatic units had the nasty habit of blowing up (arcing, which was quite a show with the lights turned off), even at lower volumes, and the woofers didn't sound "right" in combination with the faster electrostatics. They blew up a few times as well, also at lower volumes. My dealer and the owner/CEO of the importer - who got personally involved - had no idea why. The amp was fine, nothing wrong with it, so it wasn't to blame.
Quartet, Chronochromie: BBC Symphony/Dorati
Recorded mid to late 60s. Sound is fantastic!
Listened to two different performances of Schoenberg's Op. 16 (Five Pieces For Orchestra)- Dorati and Boulez. Needed a bit of a "musical dobutamine"
Gotta go with the Dorati. Boulez has too many soft edges. Rattle, and Gielen have good recordings as well.
This is only my second time hearing Dorati's, Boulez has been the one I've owned for a while. I'm going to hop on Youtube to hear some others, I briefly watched a video performance of Abbado on Schoenberg's Pelleas Et Mellisande but it felt too gentle.
So you are out of luck if you do not have a SACD player or universal player as redbook CDP cannot play the disk ...
I love the Rattle 2 disc set on Warner Classics. And I bought the Gielen Edition vol 8, Schoenberg/Berg/Webern.
That is correct. I thought everyone had an SACD player.
My first two SACD's are single-layered SACD that do not have the regular stereo layer and therefore could not be played in my redbook CDP's. At least I did not put off buying SACD's until I had the player as by the late 2000's, many hybrid SACD's were OOP as well ...
Sounds like a poorly implemented feature rather than a bug. Who wouldn't want a built-in visualizer in their speakers?
Years later I heard from others who had had the same problems with the electrostatic units. This model didn't last very long, and it was B&W's last electrostatic.
Have you heard of Martin Logan, an American speakers company? IMO, it will be difficult for B&W to compete against ML. But who knows, B&W is now an American company as well ...
Yes, I know the Martin Logan electrostatics, I've heard several of them. I've also heard American KLH gas-filled electrostatics. The B&W DM70 were my first electrostatics, and several others like Phonogen (German), Audiostatic (Dutch) and Quad followed, but none of them worked satisfactorily and I eventually returned to dynamic speakers.
But the best and the most original American electrostatics is probably Magneplanar. My brother-in-law has a pair he bought over 20 years ago. The only problem is the speakers have no bass and it sounded so much better after I gave him my surplus Yamaha sub when I went to a pair of bipolars that have deep bass. These planar speakers do not exactly have a small form factor either ...
I used the following CD to test the bass slam of an amp/speakers combo
Separate names with a comma.