Classical Corner Listenin' to Classical Music and Conversation

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by bluemooze, Feb 22, 2017.

  1. StarThrower62

    StarThrower62 Forum Resident

    Location:
    Central NY
    Gotta go with the Dorati. Boulez has too many soft edges. Rattle, and Gielen have good recordings as well.
     
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  2. hvbias

    hvbias Forum Resident

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    This is only my second time hearing Dorati's, Boulez has been the one I've owned for a while. I'm going to hop on Youtube to hear some others, I briefly watched a video performance of Abbado on Schoenberg's Pelleas Et Mellisande but it felt too gentle.
     
  3. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    CT, USA
    So you are out of luck if you do not have a SACD player or universal player as redbook CDP cannot play the disk ...
     
  4. StarThrower62

    StarThrower62 Forum Resident

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    Central NY
    I love the Rattle 2 disc set on Warner Classics. And I bought the Gielen Edition vol 8, Schoenberg/Berg/Webern.
     
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  5. Rose River Bear

    Rose River Bear Forum Resident

    That is correct. I thought everyone had an SACD player. o_O:D
     
  6. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

    Location:
    CT, USA
    My first two SACD's are single-layered SACD that do not have the regular stereo layer and therefore could not be played in my redbook CDP's. At least I did not put off buying SACD's until I had the player as by the late 2000's, many hybrid SACD's were OOP as well ...
     
  7. Runicen

    Runicen Forum Resident

    Sounds like a poorly implemented feature rather than a bug. Who wouldn't want a built-in visualizer in their speakers? :winkgrin:
     
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  8. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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  9. J.A.W.

    J.A.W. Music Addict

    Years later I heard from others who had had the same problems with the electrostatic units. This model didn't last very long, and it was B&W's last electrostatic.
     
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  10. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    CT, USA
    Have you heard of Martin Logan, an American speakers company? IMO, it will be difficult for B&W to compete against ML. But who knows, B&W is now an American company as well ...

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  11. J.A.W.

    J.A.W. Music Addict

    Yes, I know the Martin Logan electrostatics, I've heard several of them. I've also heard American KLH gas-filled electrostatics. The B&W DM70 were my first electrostatics, and several others like Phonogen (German), Audiostatic (Dutch) and Quad followed, but none of them worked satisfactorily and I eventually returned to dynamic speakers.
     
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  12. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    CT, USA
    But the best and the most original American electrostatics is probably Magneplanar. My brother-in-law has a pair he bought over 20 years ago. The only problem is the speakers have no bass and it sounded so much better after I gave him my surplus Yamaha sub when I went to a pair of bipolars that have deep bass. These planar speakers do not exactly have a small form factor either ...

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    I used the following CD to test the bass slam of an amp/speakers combo :D

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  13. J.A.W.

    J.A.W. Music Addict

    Magneplanars are flat-panel speakers, but they're no electrostatics. From wikipedia: There are other similar speaker designs to the Magneplanar. Martin-Logan and Quad Electroacoustics, among others, make electrostatic loudspeakers, which are another variation on the dipole model. Electrostatic speakers operate on a somewhat different principle.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnepan
     
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  14. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    CT, USA
    You are right! While Magneplanar and Martin Logan are both planar speakers, they work on different principles. Neither are for me since they take up too much space ...
     
  15. Mr Bass

    Mr Bass Chevelle Ma Belle

    Location:
    Mid Atlantic
    A Magnepan of that size should have plenty of bass although not bass slam which is different. A panel speaker of that size should be able to go down to upper 30s Hz. The bass is dependent though on the amplifier and the room / position.
     
  16. hvbias

    hvbias Forum Resident

    Location:
    Northeast
    Some CPE Bach Organ Sonatas in A Minor and F Major, Ton Koopman. And CD 3 from this Koopman set of the earlier Novalis recordings he made of JS Bach (this one a first listen).

    From the JS Bach set:
    Dorische Toccata & Fuge BWV 538
    Trio Sonate G Major BWV 530
    Präludium & Fuge A Minor BWV 543

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  17. HiResGeek

    HiResGeek Seer of visions

    Location:
    Boston
    After OD'ing on Beethoven and Brahms for the past few days, I need something a little different.

    Bartok: Music for Strings, Percussion & Celesta; Divertimento
    Kodaly: Dances of Galanta
    Scottish Chamber Orchestra & Sir Charles Mackerras
    Linn (SACD)

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    It seems like every Linn SACD I own sounds great.

    Korngold: Sextet; Schoenberg: Verklarte Nacht
    Raphael Ensemble
    Hyperion

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  18. hvbias

    hvbias Forum Resident

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    Nice session! I hear you on OD'ing on Beethoven or Brahms, pretty easy to do.

    It has been some time since I have heard Verklarte Nacht. I'll play this tomorrow: (for now, about to catch up on Watchmen)

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  19. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    CT, USA
    Now playing CD3 from the following box, a recent arrival for a first listen ...

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  20. Eigenvector

    Eigenvector Forum Resident

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    Listening to on this frigid evening......

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    Fischer-Dieskau never fails to delight!
     
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  21. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    Check out his top student, Dietrich Henschel in Bach Mass in b ...

     
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  22. Rose River Bear

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  23. StarThrower62

    StarThrower62 Forum Resident

    Location:
    Central NY
    Highlights from two Handel Messiah recordings on the radio.

    Marriner's 1976 recording and Beecham's third go round in 1959.

    Both sounded good to me.
     
  24. Eigenvector

    Eigenvector Forum Resident

    Location:
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    Impressive indeed!
     
  25. Wugged

    Wugged Forum Resident

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    Warsaw, Poland
    This Tchai. CD ..................

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    Read the caution on both sides of the disc ........... !!!!!!
     
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