I Could Be Dreaming: the Belle and Sebastian song-by-song, album-by-album thread

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Lance LaSalle, May 21, 2020.

  1. Lance LaSalle

    Lance LaSalle Prince of Swollen Sinus Thread Starter

    Today's song is "Judy is a Dick Slap", an instrumental written by Belle and Sebastian; and produced by Tony Doogan and Belle & Sebastian.

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/track/7xGVqpvR8HzcehAA09b8MY?si=xNNgKSU9Rv-j21LNrbPs8Q

    This was released as a B-side (or second song) to the Legal Man single. The 12" single featured an extended mix, which I'll link to below.

    I'm not exactly sure what a "Dick Slap" is.
     
  2. Lance LaSalle

    Lance LaSalle Prince of Swollen Sinus Thread Starter

    The extended mix.
     
  3. croquetlawns

    croquetlawns Forum Resident

    I don't generally rate instrumentals highly (unless it's jazz or classical), but this is rather wonderful and deserving a 3.5/5.
     
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  4. TheGoodDoctor

    TheGoodDoctor It used to go something like that

    Location:
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    It’s very reminiscent of HalloGallo by Neu!

    I’m also generally of the view that instrumentals aren’t worth the time or space but this one definitely is. In particular the extended mix.
     
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  5. Lance LaSalle

    Lance LaSalle Prince of Swollen Sinus Thread Starter

    I usually rate instrumentals highly snd this is no exception. 4.3/5
     
  6. Freek999

    Freek999 Forum Resident

    as a matter of fact there are two different extended versions of Judy Is a Dick Slap.

    the version released on the 12" in 2000, lasting 4.41 (says Discogs), or 5.10??? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9ydoTHog20
    and the newly extended version, lasting 7.25 that was on the Jeepster Singles Collection from 2016
     
  7. Freek999

    Freek999 Forum Resident

    I generally dislike instrumentals too, but make an exception for this one.

    4/5
     
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  8. Vagabone

    Vagabone Forum Resident

    Location:
    Leeds, UK
    I'm not especially keen on the main part. Televised sports montage music.

    The mellow bit at the end- is that a second section or an unlisted mini-track? It doesn't seem to be part of the extended version. Anyway I like that bit better.
    2 for the main bit, 3 for the end bit, 2 overall.
     
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  9. Sammy Waslow

    Sammy Waslow Just watching the show

    Location:
    Ireland
    This is genuinely one of my favourite Belle and Sebastian tracks. Before my iPod died a couple of years ago, I think it was my most played track by them. And it's an absolute belter when done live. 5/5
     
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  10. Gavaxeman

    Gavaxeman Take me back to dear old Blighty...

    Location:
    West Midlands U.K.
    Judy is a ..

    Some high marks here so far, this one’s never really registered that highly for me , maybe because I love the next track , so an inoffensive 3/5
     
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  11. BeardedSteven

    BeardedSteven Forum Resident

    Location:
    Southern Indiana
    There's not really enough to this song to make me really like it. Nor is there enough bad about it to make me actively dislike it. I am surprised by the love here for it. :shrug:A middle of the road 2.5 for me....
     
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  12. therunner

    therunner Forum Resident

    Location:
    England
    Put me down as another non-fan of pop instrumentals, I tend to think of them as filler and I feel a bit cheated out of a 'proper song'. Although this one has some decent melodies, I would definitely prefer Stuart's vocals over the top of it. It's hard to give it a rating but comparing it to other songs I've rated as 3's I would rather listen to them than this, so it has to be just 2/5.
     
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  13. anervousehearse

    anervousehearse Well-Known Member

    Location:
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    Don’t love it, but rarely skip it (in the context of the push barman compilation, but that might speak to the amazing quality of the surrounding songs). It’s interesting enough, and I respect them the more for doing weird stuff like this but certainly not what I come to Belle and Sebastian for.
    Round down to 2/5
     
  14. Lance LaSalle

    Lance LaSalle Prince of Swollen Sinus Thread Starter

    Our votes for "Judy is a Dick Slap"

    1-0
    2-3
    3-1
    4-3
    5-1
    Average: 3.225
     
  15. Lance LaSalle

    Lance LaSalle Prince of Swollen Sinus Thread Starter

    Today's song is "Winter Wooskie", written by Stuart David and produced by Tony Doogan and Belle & Sebastian. The genius.com entry says the lead vocal is aby Stevie Jackson; but I'm pretty sure that its Stuart David.

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/track/2Dj1k4VmGEiLcdqgMfihoL?si=TuiBTA0OSvG0Ia5ULVbCow
    LYRIC.
    "Winter Wooskie" was based on a Stuart David demo; the rest of the band completed it without him, "Free as a Bird" style, after he had left the band, as a gesture of farewell.
    It was released as a B-side on the Legal Man single.
     
  16. Vagabone

    Vagabone Forum Resident

    Location:
    Leeds, UK
    I can't really get past SD's singing here. I don't think I like the song but it's possible I could have been won over by someone else singing it.
     
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  17. TheGoodDoctor

    TheGoodDoctor It used to go something like that

    Location:
    London
    Sounds like a relic from a bygone age (1996 to be precise).

    off the top of my head I couldn’t remember what it sounded like and even now having listened to it, it’s not really sticking with me. Also, it sounds very similar to Paper Boat unsurprisingly.
     
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  18. Gavaxeman

    Gavaxeman Take me back to dear old Blighty...

    Location:
    West Midlands U.K.
    Winter Wooskie...


    For some reason I’ve always loved this one so a 4/5..
     
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  19. Sammy Waslow

    Sammy Waslow Just watching the show

    Location:
    Ireland
    For ages, I thought it was Stevie singing it. I figured, if he's affecting a deep voice on other things, he could be singing with a softer voice here. But it is Stuart David.

    I think this is a low key gem that works as a nice antidote to the mayhem of Legal Man and the relentless energy of (most of) Judy Is a Dick Slap. I would have been perfectly happy if it was on the album.

    Its slightly naive composition - which, in itself, is also part of its charm - means it falls short of full marks for me, but I've always liked it, so in a move that makes the title song the lowest scoring track here for me, this gets 4/5.
     
  20. Lance LaSalle

    Lance LaSalle Prince of Swollen Sinus Thread Starter

    I like it, and I think that the band did a good job -- it's a pity Stuart David left the band, in a way, because a Stuart David song every once in a while, played by Belle and Sebastian, goes down better than a whole album of Looper stuff.

    This one has a good atmosphere and I give it a 3.5/5. Like the little guitar solo.
     
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  21. croquetlawns

    croquetlawns Forum Resident

    Good, but not great - 3/5. But much better than other Stuart David B&S songs!
     
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  22. Freek999

    Freek999 Forum Resident

    and here's the other good Stuart David song... 3/5
     
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  23. anervousehearse

    anervousehearse Well-Known Member

    Location:
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    Stuart David’s best song.
    4/5
     
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  24. BeardedSteven

    BeardedSteven Forum Resident

    Location:
    Southern Indiana
    Winter Wooskie is a fine Stuart D song. But it really does sound very similar to Paper Boat, which I think I like much more. Either would have been a better choice to put on Fold Your Hands than That One Song... :sigh: It's too bad that Paper Boat got lost in the shuffle, and this gets hidden as a B-side. This is not a 5 tiered Stuart M song but I will give it a nice 3.75.
     
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  25. therunner

    therunner Forum Resident

    Location:
    England
    Even though Stuart David doesn't have a great singing voice I still prefer his singing songs to his spoken word ones.

    "Winter Wooksie" is pleasant enough and I never skip it but I don't like it as much as "Paper Boat" so 3/5
     
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