Frank Zappa Song By Song Thread (1966-96)*

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Zoot Marimba, Aug 21, 2018.

  1. Rne

    Rne Sufferin' succotash!

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    I love that version just for the way Ike makes Frank crack up. Hi-yo!
     
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  2. Zoot Marimba

    Zoot Marimba And I’m The Critic Of The Group Thread Starter

    Holy s(bleeeeeep)! I thought you went missing!
     
  3. Rne

    Rne Sufferin' succotash!

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    From time to time I enter this thread and read it, but generally I have nothing to add :D
     
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  4. Zoot Marimba

    Zoot Marimba And I’m The Critic Of The Group Thread Starter

    Wow, hard to believe it would have been Ray Collins’ 83rd. I’m sure I’ve said this somewhere, but if Frank was the brains of the Mothers and Jimmy the heart, then Ray was its soul. Of course, he was the guy that brought Frank into the band that became The Mothers Of Invention, so who knows if we’d even be here without Ray. He was it’s voice, the man that could take something ugly and make it beautiful in its own way. Dry and sardonic one moment, sweet and tender the next, he could perfectly capture the voice of Frank’s words in a way that few others could. Even Lowell George, an amazing talent in his own right and another one of my heroes, wondered if he could follow up. There were many great voices in Frank’s group(s) over the years, but Ray was one of a kind.

    We all love and miss you Ray, wherever you are. Me, I’d like to think you’re with the angels choir.
     
  5. Anthrax

    Anthrax Forum Resident

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    Happy birthday, Ray. In the words of The Mothers themselves, "Ray Collins, we love you! We'll never forget you."
     
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  6. Zoot Marimba

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    Outside Now:

    Here we are on the fortieth anniversary of Joe’s Garage reviewing a track off that album. This is Joe stuck in prison pining to play his music and be free again. This is also the first of two tracks to feature Patrick O’Hearn on fretless bass.
    Very beautiful, mournful track, beautiful use of Cucurullo’s sitar-guitar, Ike is in fine form, giving a tinge of humor as well as a sense of pathos. That’s very hard to do, but Ike did it. I’ll spin the beans....I’m doing a ranking of Zappa’s band members in the distant future, and guess what song I use to highlight Ike?
    Let’s also focus on the rhythm section. Vinnie is outstanding, and all the dense flourishes he and Ed offer is nothing short of astounding. O’Hearn shows once again why he’s my favorite Zappa bassist; so rhythmically fluid, spectacular ear for countermelody, taking the track to another level, really pushing Frank as a player.
    Brilliant track off this album.
     
  7. Zoot Marimba

    Zoot Marimba And I’m The Critic Of The Group Thread Starter

    Paris 1980, amazing version, probably my favorite:
     
  8. Zoot Marimba

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    Guitar, the track being Munich 79 from “City Of Tiny Lites”-Original Solo:
     
  9. Zoot Marimba

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    YCDTOSA Vol 4.:
     
  10. Zoot Marimba

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    Broadway The Hard Way:

    Ike is in great voice as always on these two versions, the problem though is the instrumentation. Chad Wackerman, he seems like a nice dude, and I won’t say he can’t play, it’s just, there’s no soul, there’s no feeling at all, no hutzpah in his playing, he’s basically the Matt Sorum of Zappa.
     
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  11. Zoot Marimba

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  12. Beatnik_Daddyo'73

    Beatnik_Daddyo'73 Music Addiction Personified

    ...what a voice :righton: here’s a nice tribute via Zappacast

    ZappaCast Episode 20 (A Tribute To Ray Collins) - ZappaCast - The Official Frank Zappa Podcast
     
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  13. Zoot Marimba

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  14. Fastnbulbous

    Fastnbulbous Doubleplus Ungood

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    "Outside Now" is the highlight of the whole album to me, with a beautiful melody and downright wicked solo. My only complaint is that it's too short. (Which is why the YCDTOA version is my fave.)It's reminiscent of "Inca Roads" but the time signature is different and Frank incorporates a lot more bends in his solo. Does anyone know what brand of strings he used? Did he go lighter gauge at some point? His solos always had a bend or two, but not like we hear after the 4' mark.
     
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  15. Cheevyjames

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    Outside Now

    Dreamy. Great vocal from Ike and another "out of this world" guitar solo from Frank. I love the elongated rhythm of the 11/8 pattern. I always feel like I'm in a trance from this tune; I just float along and get sucked in by the riff, the vocal and the guitar solo. Simple, but excellent.

    I also love the YCDTOSA 3 version of Keep it Greasy. Ike's "Hi ho Silver, away!" right at the beginning is perfection.
     
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  16. pbuzby

    pbuzby Forum Resident

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    I can't find an individual upload of it, so go to 30:44 in this video to hear "City Of Tiny Lights" with the original instrumental "Outside Now" inserted in the middle. Peter Wolf solos over the "Outside Now" vamp before FZ in this version. FZ's solo starts at 38:57.

     
  17. edenofflowers

    edenofflowers A New Stereophonic Sound Spectacular!

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    The lyrics are informative and thoughtful. A girl don't need no fancy grease to get herself some rump relief. It was true then and it's true now. If you want to avoid that crazy screaming souind then remember to keep it greasy. Guys too. A lot of silly pain could be avoided by using sufficient lubrication and any kind of lube'll do!
     
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  18. pbuzby

    pbuzby Forum Resident

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    ^^ I think it's "rump release."
     
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  19. edenofflowers

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    Outside Now is a stone cold classic. It's heart-breaking and one of the most emotional songs I think Frank ever wrote. It also includes the word plooked because that's how Frank 'rolled'.
     
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  20. edenofflowers

    edenofflowers A New Stereophonic Sound Spectacular!

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    I think you're right. 'Rump release' sounds far more scatological though. :D
     
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  21. mBen989

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    "Outside Now"

    The high point of Act 2.
     
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  22. mBen989

    mBen989 Forum Resident

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    And now, as performed by "The Barking Pumpkin Digital Gratification Consort"

     
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  23. vince

    vince Stan Ricker's son-in-law

    WOW!
    This sounds a bit different from the original Angel CD!
    Let's hear it for the 231 views of this!
     
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  24. Zoot Marimba

    Zoot Marimba And I’m The Critic Of The Group Thread Starter

    Super cool find! So strange and yet so musical, perfectly Frank in its own way.
     
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  25. Zoot Marimba

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    It’s definitely up there.
     
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