Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by manco, Jan 15, 2019.
Good one! But I wouldn't want to spoil it by overuse.
How can they afford to make an album when they got no money from the previous album? The record company won't be coughing up the money for the new one if its not going to sell. The only recording options for new artists with no money is to put a track up on Youtube and hope it goes viral. Easier said than done.
A large majority of younger acts aren't signed to major labels and therefore don't need "the record company" to fund their recordings. They also keep more money for themselves per sale, since they're not paying for corporate overhead. Many artists have sustained decades-long careers in this fashion.
This isn't the 1980's anymore (regardless of the what the forum thinks). Artists can record an entire album in their apartment and throw it up on Bandcamp. And either independently or via a smaller label they can create small run vinyl / CD / cassette releases if they wanted to.
But these days you would need a miracle on your side to sell those records and cd's in significant numbers.
True. And yet these artists continue to survive - likely due to the lower overhead.
Word of mouth, streaming and/or YT. Probably other things that I have no idea about. TikTok maybe?
This seems to be the sticking point in the conversation, apparently. You do not need to sell "in significant numbers" to maintain a financially viable career anymore, as long as you're not signed to a major label.
You know, i ain't sure the album is dead. Not with me at least.
I use the streaming convenient media (Qobuz) to discover or re-discover music and i end up buying vinyl albums...
Heaven is the vinyl store just around the corner...
Seems more 1984 than ever!.
Leonard Cohen Discography - USA - 45cat
So why are so many still buying physical media especially vinyl? Quite a few people like to listen to a whole album, even streaming from Spotify. Artists put music out as an album whether digital or physical so no way is the album dead. Albums drop of the charts quickly because they are announced far in advance and those interested pre order online. So most sales are made on release. There have only been a few albums that have hung around a long time in recent years. Apart from Adele I would say mostly related to film soundtracks. Celine Dion was never such a huge seller in some markets apart from a few singles hits. I doubt she has a big fanbase now in either US or UK. Never could stand her myself.
Her Vegas residencies have been huge.
Vegas is another world. Has been stars in recording terms have had long runs there. Maybe the demographic that go to those shows - but are they record buyers?
It sounds like something they did with a version of a Todd Rundgren album named TR-i that was released for the Philips CD-i system. With this version of the album, instead of being just a collection of songs it consisted of snippets that could be assembled on the fly to create different versions of the same album. You could control the tempo, mood, and also choose to generate the album based on different producers. It was fun and interesting to play around with the album and see what comes up.
I was just listening to Yes "Tales From Topographic Oceans" on CD. Not just an album, but a sprawling, 2 CD conceptual piece. Not a perfect album by any means, but this could never be made in today's musical climate, and I doubt anyone would stream it or have the attention span to listen to it if it was a new release. That being said, boy am I thankful for how the music industry operated (from 1964-2010) before ipod listening and streaming ruled the day. So....to me, as long as shiny compact discs and their CD players are still around (never was a vinyl guy) albums are not dead!
I don't think albums (regardless of the format) are dead, but they will be less significant than they used to be. I think is mainly because now you don't have to purchase an entire album to get a single song. Where I think an album will continue to be relevant is when it comes to concept/theme albums, where each individual song is a part of a larger whole and thus that would be an incentive to purchase the collection as a whole.
Fixed it for you. Of course it could be made today. Extended pieces are recorded and listened to all the time "in today's musical climate." I just finished listening to a single extended improvisation by Julie Tippetts (nee Julie Driscoll) and Mark Wastell that's utterly mesmerizing.
At year-end, it now transpires that you spoke the truth so truthfully that I've forgotten what the subject of your truth-telling was.
Perhaps it needs an anniversary edition to commemorate a year of whatever it was
I’m 45 and never owned a record until recently. Now (compared to 20’s) I have disposable income and can afford to buy the audio equipment and nice vinyl records. I believe the youth of today will one day go through the same phase of wanting something tangible.
I have recorded about 30 albums, and never sold one.
I don't see why you want the album dead. Anyone that does, is certainly not a music lover
Ahhh yes, like someone said ... "but I may as well try and catch the wind " !
Vinyl is dead, long live vinyl!
I feel like thankfully there is definitely a market still for those kinds of albums somewhat, even if it may be more niche - for example "The Raven That Refused to Sing" by Steven Wilson is a prog-rock-metal-jazz combo with all of the songs thematically fitting next to each other. Tool recently had a #1 album beating out Taylor Swift, with songs all 10+ minutes long and there was insane hype for this album by rock fans over the years
I feel like the majority trends are not favorable to these full album experiences, however there is a market for it still and I don't think the album is anywhere near dead - just not as relevant to the mainstream as it once was.
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